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True Blue 
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 Posted: Apr/27/2009 at 1:45pm |
Originally posted by teachgolf1
The summer after her sophomore year? Why is that what counts the most? |
I think most coaches are watching the players the most the summer before the player's junior year. They are wanting to see how the player is progressing for recruiting them. Since the coaches can then contact them starting in Sept. 1 of their junior year. And a of players commit as early as that fall their junior year. Some players go through a slump after they verbally commit and some may or may not get their game back. They may have peaked at that time. All I know is Courtney Ellenbogen has been a very good player and I don't know why she is going through a slump and it started last summer and seems to have continued on into 2009. Hopefully Dan Brooks will fix the problem and she will be a great player for Duke. I wish her the best!
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Posted: Apr/27/2009 at 2:23pm |
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Thats why I think summer after jr year is most important. Soph year is what puts you on the radar but junior year is where you prove how good you are. I know there is competition for the best players but if I were coaching I do not think I would even accept a committment until after the summer of their junior year. If that lost me a player or two thats fine. But it would also save me from having a college freshamn who may be on a two year slump
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Posted: Apr/27/2009 at 8:14pm |
Originally posted by teachgolf1
Thats why I think summer after jr year is most important. Soph year is what puts you on the radar but junior year is where you prove how good you are. I know there is competition for the best players but if I were coaching I do not think I would even accept a committment until after the summer of their junior year. If that lost me a player or two thats fine. But it would also save me from having a college freshamn who may be on a two year slump |
I agree totally. But this happens every year and the best players feel the pressure to commit so they want loose the spot being offered and the coaches are afraid to wait because they too may loose the player they want. And it is worst in boys. And it is a chance all take and some get lucky and some don't!
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Posted: Apr/27/2009 at 8:38pm |
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My son is a 2010 commit and things did happen much earlier than we had expected. His hope was to know where he would be going by the early signing next Nov. But I have to say from the perspective of doing it early, it is very nice that he is building a good rapport with his coach and his future teammates. His focus is on striving to get better rather than worrying about the recruiting process. People always ask the "what if something better comes along" question, but he is very happy with his school and team choice. From this side of things it is so far so good. He did not feel any pressure, nor did the coach put pressure on him. It is interesting though how as more kids commit how it raises the stress levels of those still wondering where they will end up.
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teachgolf1
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Posted: Apr/27/2009 at 11:45pm |
Both sides have valid points. can take pressure off but can also cause them to let down. kids can go either way. Like I said I would do my best to wait if I were a coach because you get the currently hot players rather than those who were hot a full year before.
The other pitfall to early committments is the case of coaches leaving and kids gettin stuck
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Posted: Apr/29/2009 at 10:37am |
Originally posted by teachgolf1
And seriously...do you really think these junior golfers will attract more people to the golf course for the event? Nope. |
Honestly, how many people travel out of state to go to LPGA tournaments? Not many; therefore, it follows that most of the people that would attend this event will be Virginians. Which do you think has a better chance of getting a Virginia golf fan to attend this event: giving an exemption to the 200th ranked player on the LPGA tour who probably is ranked there for a reason and who nobody probably has heard of outside of her own family or to give it to a highly ranked Virginia junior. My guess is that Virginians would follow the local.
By the way, Ellenbogen has backed out so she is being replaced by another junior from the state.
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Posted: Apr/29/2009 at 11:10am |
SMM i dont think either one has a chance of attracting any extra people to the event and that is exactly my point. The juniors playingare not attracting anyone so in that case the exemption is wasted on them. I just totally believe it is a professional tour and any spots in the events should be earned thru the same manner.
As for Ellenbogen withdrawing now they are going to get someone who is ranked even lower. They are in Virginia, if they are going to give it to an amateur at least give it to a girl from UVA if it doesnt conflict w anything for her
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Posted: Apr/29/2009 at 11:51am |
they have given it to meredith swanson, a junior who has committed to play golf at south carolina next year. they could not have given it to anyone from uva since that is the weekend they are playing in ncaa regionals in florida.
maybe swanson is not the ideal draw but to my point again, why would you want to give that exemption to a professional golfer not already in the field...check out the michelob ultra website and look at the names that are included. there are plenty that nobody has ever heard of. the only way for a sponsor to generate income from a tournament realistically is through attendance and revenue generated through that. back to my original post, having a local product is going to bring in local people which in turn is going to bring in more revenue theoretically.
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Posted: Apr/29/2009 at 4:23pm |
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smmtiger- I appreciate your point of view!
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Posted: Apr/29/2009 at 7:05pm |
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I do appreciate the honesty and integrity of Ellenbogen for withdrawing when she felt her game was not up to par and worthy of the invite.
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